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StormDragonZ · Jan 07, 2009, 11:15 PM // 23:15

Nothing much happens in June... I'll predict the 2nd week of June.

fenix · Jan 07, 2009, 11:15 PM // 23:15

GW2 == Duke Nukem Forever.

Sirius-NZ · Jan 08, 2009, 04:42 AM // 04:42

Except DNF has been in development for 10+ years.

A better analogy might be Half-Life 2, which was announced in 1999 (shortly after HL1 was released). As best as I can tell nobody saw anything of it until E3 2003, nearly four years later.

We still aren't up to that, though.

Abedeus · Jan 08, 2009, 05:26 AM // 05:26

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Originally Posted by own age myname

If you take a break, as in forgetting about Guild Wars for 1 year, you won't get Guild Wars 2 info anyway. Go out and do something instead of playing a game you've overplayed. No game lasts forever. I bet if you took a break from this moment, and not read anything about GW1 AND GW2 you'd come back to some information. But of course that is speculation.

Funny you mention. I had several breaks from GW, including one 3 months after beginning (about 3 years ago).

And if a (MM)ORPG lasts maaaaybe about 3 years, it's not really much. Diablo 2 is still playable, I still enjoy Neverwinter Nights...

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Except DNF has been in development for 10+ years.

You are right. This means DNF is better developed.

bryann380 · Jan 08, 2009, 06:06 AM // 06:06

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Prediction: When will Anet release GW2 information?

Answer: Whenever Anet is ready to release it.

Zinger314 · Jan 08, 2009, 07:23 AM // 07:23

I'm convinced that NCSoft will go under in 2009, making the release of GW2 moot.

ZenRgy · Jan 08, 2009, 07:34 AM // 07:34

GW2 was a rumour spread to market Eye of the North.

Winterclaw · Jan 08, 2009, 07:42 AM // 07:42

Why is NCSoft going under and won't someone pick up some of their titles?

a-kyle · Jan 08, 2009, 07:56 AM // 07:56

there not going under guild wars two is in the makes and they will release more information when they have it

kratimas · Jan 08, 2009, 01:10 PM // 13:10

I think they will tell us something on the day they tell us something.

What did I win!

I hope a cookie or some pie

slowerpoke · Jan 08, 2009, 01:31 PM // 13:31

for me, it wont exist until i see ingame footage

when does aion come out?
maybe we'll hear something after that

Sparda · Jan 08, 2009, 02:21 PM // 14:21

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Originally Posted by fenix

GW2 == Duke Nukem Forever.

Lolz great example ^^

But for a serious reply i hope Anet trows us a bone.
But i think we get something when Anet feel that they are ready
In the end if we have no info then we don't know what to expect.
So we aren't dissepointed for what we get.
If they show use a motherload we expect that what we have seen and are dissepointed in the end for what we got.

hallomik · Jan 08, 2009, 03:15 PM // 15:15

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon

Me thinks someone need to look-up what vaporware means before calling people idiots.

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product.

@Shadowmoon – It’s funny. I went to Wikipedia, too, and I drew the exact opposite conclusion you did from reading the exact same link. Vaporware applies only to those announced projects that have “well exceeded” the development time “initially claimed” or “normally expected.”

Has GW2 “well exceeded” the development time either claimed or expected? If it hasn’t, it doesn’t meet the criteria to be called vaporware. Pure and simple.

Two years from now with no further progress, I’ll join the GW2-is-vaporware chorus.

Here is the evidence that GW2 is real.

A team of former GW1 developers is known to be actively working on it. This is confirmed by reading various Anet employee webpages in the official gw wiki.
GW2 is routinely referred to by ArenaNet, although often to say that they can’t officially reveal anything yet.
A partnership was recently announced for a technology that will accelerate 3D drawing.
GW1 is actively supported and we routinely hear about how GW2 developers are occasionally pulled from that project to help add a GW1 feature.
The recent PAX video showing the Q&A with former GW1 developers included numerous references to GW2, although they were primarily to indicate that they were not yet allowed to discuss the new project.

….

Further, we know that GW1 is one of the must successful computer game franchises in the history of the genre selling over 5.5 million copies – a greater number than all but an elite, tiny set of wildly successful computer franchises.

Here is the evidence that GW2 will become vaporware (I don’t say “is vaporware,” because by Wikipedia definition it is not):

We are now several weeks past the point when the beta was originally projected.
We do not have screenshots.

These are the facts. Draw your own conclusions.

Abedeus · Jan 08, 2009, 09:07 PM // 21:07

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Here is the evidence that GW2 is real.

Just because Old Testament exists, doesn't mean God is 100% real.

We don't have ANY hard proof that GW 2 exists.

GW2 was announced in March 2007. Almost 2 years ago minus two months. Usually, if you announce a game, you have some screenshots. Gameplay. Trailer. Anything...

You don't follow the biggest guys in the league, you lose. Sorry, but that's the harsh fact.

Apollo Smile · Jan 08, 2009, 09:19 PM // 21:19

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Just because Old Testament exists, doesn't mean God is 100% real.

We don't have ANY hard proof that GW 2 exists.

GW2 was announced in March 2007. Almost 2 years ago minus two months. Usually, if you announce a game, you have some screenshots. Gameplay. Trailer. Anything...

You don't follow the biggest guys in the league, you lose. Sorry, but that's the harsh fact.

www.arena.net
Unless you find it in good taste to call an entire company of developers liars...

Darth Malak · Jan 08, 2009, 09:27 PM // 21:27

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Guild Wars: Eye of the North also provides a bridge to the upcoming release of Guild Wars 2, the new game that ArenaNet is currently working on. Guild Wars 2 will take place over 200 hundred years after the events portrayed in Guild Wars: Eye of the North, and is scheduled to go into public beta in the second half of 2008.

Source: http://www.arena.net/games/

2009 & no beta, time for an update to that site, me thinks!

Apollo Smile · Jan 08, 2009, 09:42 PM // 21:42

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Originally Posted by Darth Malak

Source: http://www.arena.net/games/

2009 & no beta, time for an update to that site, me thinks!

Key word is scheduled.
http://www.guildwars.com/products/guildwars2/gw2faq/

"When will there be a beta?

Although we publically alpha- and beta-tested the original Guild Wars while it was still in early development, with Guild Wars 2 we will commence beta testing closer to the game's release. With that in mind, we will not start beta testing in 2008 as we had originally planned. Guild Wars 2 is a very large and ambitious game, and Guild Wars players rightfully have very high expectations of its quality. We want players to be absolutely blown away by the game the first time they experience it."

Fril Estelin · Jan 08, 2009, 09:57 PM // 21:57

Very funnily, I found Activision Blizzard's Starcraft II to be 4th in Wired 2008 Vaporware list:
http://www.wired.com/culture/culture...?currentPage=2

Ooops, looks like I've been carried away in the troll wagon...

SerenitySilverstar · Jan 08, 2009, 10:26 PM // 22:26

You guys are also forgetting that Regina has said they're under a Non-Disclosure Agreement.

They'll announce something when they're ready and it makes business sense. Not when the kids demand it of them.

Fril Estelin · Jan 08, 2009, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar

You guys are also forgetting that Regina has said they're under a Non-Disclosure Agreement.

NDAs are used to enter into a binding agreement with someone outside of your company so that they are "forced" to not discuss any of their common business (if they do, they have to pay huge liabilities). Regina can't talk because of their policy on GW2, which is to not release any information until the game is close to "ready" (whatever that means, close to beta, stable, etc.). If she was to disclose any information that Anet doesn't want to be released as part of their GW2 policy, she'd be in breach of contract.